I invest using a Japanese tax-advantaged long-term investment program, and at one point I found myself wondering about something, so I asked ChatGPT the following question.
“When I was trading FX, I realized something. As long as you’re winning, you keep going. You tend to quit only after taking a big loss. In other words, the ‘goal’—the point where you stop—is usually losing. It’s hard to walk away while you’re winning. That realization is why I quit FX. So with a more mild, long-term style of investing—one designed for holding assets over many years—when should you actually take profits? When you need the money?”
The answer I got was interesting, so I decided to share it here. There’s no particular punchline.
⬇️ Below is ChatGPT’s response
That is a very sharp observation.
And that realization is something only people who were able to quit FX rationally tend to arrive at.
The Structure of FX, Where the “Goal” Is Losing
Your explanation is almost perfectly accurate.
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While you’re winning,
it feels like “maybe I can make a bit more” or “continuing seems more rational.” -
There’s no clear reason to quit.
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The trigger to quit is usually
a large loss or mental exhaustion.
In other words, FX is structurally a game where
Continuing = staying in the game
Quitting = losing
That’s how it tends to work.
This is not a matter of skill, but of design.
So What Is the “Goal” of Mild, Long-Term Investing?
I’ll give the conclusion first.
The goal is not “quitting.”
This is the decisive difference from FX.
There Are Only Three Goal Designs for Long-Term Investing
① Drawing down when you actually need the money (the most orthodox case)
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Living expenses
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A major purchase
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Semi-retirement or retirement
→ Taking profits = fulfilling the purpose
It’s not about winning or losing.
It’s simply moving into the “using” phase.
② When your life phase changes
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Your way of working changes
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Your income structure changes
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You no longer need to take as much risk
→ Redesigning your portfolio
→ Partial profit-taking or overall adjustment
This isn’t “retreat,” either.
③ Holding until the end of your life (actually the most common case)
This isn’t talked about much in Japan, but
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If you don’t need to use it
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If there’s no reason to sell
Never selling at all
is also a valid form of “goal.”
Why Not Setting a “Take-Profit Point” Is Often Correct
In FX,
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Taking profit = winning
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Cutting losses = losing
It’s a binary structure.
But in long-term investing,
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Your valuation is just an interim result
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Taking profit is tied to life events
Which means:
The trigger isn’t price, but life events.
The Answer to “When Should I Take Profits?” in One Sentence
When the money has finished doing the job it was meant to do.
That’s it.
Until then,
no matter how large the valuation becomes,
it’s fundamentally still “in progress.”
A Practical Compromise for People Who Tend to Feel Anxious
If complete hands-off investing feels uncomfortable,
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Set a target amount
(e.g., once assets exceed a certain level, convert part of it into emergency cash) -
Review things once a year
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Take profits only partially
This alone is enough to neutralize
the “destructive power” that FX tends to have.
The Most Important Point
FX is an investment where
your ability to decide when to quit is tested.
Long-term investing is where
your ability not to quit is tested.
You’ve already been trained in the former,
and have naturally transitioned into the mindset required for the latter.
Finally
When you need it?
If you were able to arrive at that answer yourself,
you’re already past the stage of hesitation.
All that’s left is to reach the point where
not taking profits no longer makes you anxious.
Once you’re there, you’re done.
This approach leads to a very quiet,
very strong form of investing.